Witam serdecznie. Chciałbym napisać małe uzupełnienie do tematu. Otóż autor pisał, że miał problemy z klawiaturą ale nie napisał co dokładnie zrobił (a wyjęcie z tego lapka klawiatury to 90% sukcesu) ;) W moim przypadku sprzęt nie ładuje akumulatora i w ogóle się nie włącza - po rozkręceniu dopatrzyłem się spuchniętych kondensatorów (4 sztuki: 6.3V, 1500uF). Najprawdopodobniej to jest przyczyna. Na tej STRONIE zamieszczona jest informacja jak go rozkładać. Jakby coś to jest to jeden z laptopów typu generic; można go znaleźć pod nazwami NTT G320 (taki właśnie dostałem), ECS GREEN 320 czy właśnie PATRIOT G320. Gdyby ta strona przestała istnieć, w załączniku znajduje się PDF z jej zawartością.
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Patriot 3070 307x, EI System 3081, 308x (Generic DSG G320)
Disassembly/reasembly.
This document discusses how to fix a common problem with the illustrated laptop range.
Disclaimer
This document contains my dubious opinions about how an amateur reader might do
pragmatic 'field repairs'. Repair experts may call them something else. I would not expect a
professional service agent to employ these methods because I would expect the agent to
have expert tools, skills and replacement parts at hand. I have used and refined these
methods on my own laptops and they have consistently worked perfectly and safely for
sustained periods under stressed conditions, but obviously for a number of reasons, they may
not work for you. Use this entirely at your own risk. If you only want an expert to fix your
laptop this is NOT the document for you. If you are an expert, please keep your sense of
humour, and put away your flame-thrower.
Aims/Audience
a) To provide an amateur solution to commonly failed capacitors on a particular laptop.
b) To avoid having to send the laptop away anywhere with all the hassle entailed.
c) To provide the help needed to open a particular laptop model without breaking it.
d) To provide an excuse to explore inside the laptop and learn - without breaking it.
e) To provide a 'Blu-Tack' method of reversible dismantling.
f) To save on costs.
g) To trade risks in favour of the amateur.
h) Aspects may help with WEEE (waste electrical electronic equipment) dismantling.
The problem
Components (capacitors) on these laptops tend to fail (pop) after a year or two of service *.
The Symptom
The final symptom is that when you plug in power from the external supply with the battery
removed the green power LED goes ON, but when you press the power switch the power
light goes off again. Before this happens you may or may not get other misbehaviour. One of
my machines was fine then died, the other would tend to crash if the laptop was not handled
gently while switched on, if you changed the display angle it might crash leaving lost chains in
the hard disk. Both machines are now absolutely fine.
Diagnosis
By opening the Fan Cover on the underside you can quickly see if repair is feasible. Look at
the bank of 4 capacitors at the edge of the fan bay. If NONE or ONE are bulging or vented*
repairing it yourself is feasible. If two or more have failed you will find it very hard to replace
these upright capacitors with taller replacements, plus the upright ones are harder to remove
safely in the first place. There are 4 more capacitors deep inside that can me more safely
replaced if you have 6 hours and the parts. It is assumed that once dismantled the capacitors
deep inside will have failed and will likely be bulging or vented. They sometimes fail without
visible signs.
Requirements/Assumptions
Time;
6 hours minimum, 2 dismantle, 1.5 repair, 2 reassembly, 0.5 first test.
Skills;
Patience, ability to solder reasonably well. But no ability to de-solder
component leads that pass thru a precious Multi-layer motherboard with
an acceptably low risk of damage. Advice; do not attempt this at all.
Parts;
Pack of 10 x 1500uF 6.3V Electrolytic capacitors. Farnell order code 1144672. These are actually too big (21mm long), ideal length(12mm).
7/02 insulated wire (if fan bay capacitor replacement required)
Dismantling Tools Small cross head screwdriver - to undo screws
Small flat head screwdriver - to prize apart various things
Blu-Tack - to stick removed screws next to hole they came from.
Small electronics industry wire cutters - to snip capacitor leads
3.5mm Hexagonal nut runner – to remove hexagonal pillars on the back.
(Optional) Heavy duty wire cutters or tin snips - to trim DVD drive bracket
Repair tools;
Soldering iron, solder, clean wet cleaning sponge.
Instructions;
See below
Dismantling
The key to dismantling this laptop is to know how to remove the keyboard. (Step 1.)
Place the laptop before you with lid/display open as if about to use it normally.
Top access outside – The following steps are accessed [generally] from the top (keyboard
side) of the case.
1. Keyboard.
x1
a) Press toward you the leftmost latch along the front edge, gently lift the keyboard
corner past the latch far enough to wedge something underneath it.
Tip: if a key comes off, to put it on again, place it over exactly where it belongs and press firmly. There is
no need to lift the keys cantilever and fiddle.
latche
s - like a door latch
b) Press in the other latches from left to right. This way the keyboard should spring
out more with each latch released due to the wedge under one corner.
c) Unlock keyboard cable socket to remove flat keyboard cable. Remove keyboard.
unlock and open
2. Keyboard metal sheet (under the keyboard).
x1
Simply lift out by lifting up the front first and pulling out tongues along back edge.
To re-assemble lift up front and push in tongues along the back edge first.
3. Under keyboard screws
x7
Do not remove screws covered by Hot-Melt (plastic blob) there is no need to.
Tip: Blu-Tack each removed screw by the hole it came from.
4. Hinge Cover.
x1
This is the piece of plastic between the speakers that also covers over the display
hinges. It is very strong and yet very flexible, it needs to be both.
a) Shut the laptop display down and turn it around to look at the back
b) Identify the display hinge covers, and the small slots at their edge.
c) With a screwdriver gently lever outward and upward the hinge hoods (about
2mm) and leave unclipped. Take care not to click them back down.
d) Turn around the laptop again, re-open display/lid more than 90 degrees.
e) Where the hinge cover meets the case along the hinge-line there is a groove.
Place a flat screwdriver in this groove and twist to dislocate the tongues under the
groove so the hinge cover springs upward with the tongues exposed outside.
Start at one end and work across.
f) While lifting the back of the hinge cover (nearest the display) free of the power
and other buttons, slide the hinge cover away from the display to dislocate the
clips under the hinge cover where it meets the keyboard.
5. Screws under hinge cover
x4
remove the 4 screws exposed by the removed hinge cover. 2 are on the hinge
pillars, 2 are around the console buttons/LEDs.
Tip: Blu-Tack each removed screw by the hole it came from.
6. Hinge Screws
x4
Close the lid, turn round the laptop again so looking at the back. Identify the screws
that hold the display mount pillars from the back and the underside. Remove them taking care to prevent the lid falling off and breaking. Turn back round again as if to
use the laptop normally and reopen the lid.
Tip: Blu-Tack each removed screw by the hole it came from.
7. Display plugs
x2
Unplug the 2 leads that connect the display to the laptop. Where possible avoid
tugging the cables, instead pull the plug housings from their sockets. The most
fragile plug is the one on the left and this plug is easiest to remove without tugging
the cable.
Tip; you can rock the cable a little bit to identify where the plug meets the socket.
8. Display body
x1
lift out the display cables from their channels, then lift the display out.
9. Display hinge-line Screws.
x3
remove the 3 screws – exposed by display removal - under the display hinge-line.
Tip: Blu-Tack each removed screw by the hole it came from.
Bottom Access outside-
The following parts are accessed from the underside of the case
(after display removed)
10. Battery.
x1
11. HDD plate The bulging metal plate centre/front - remove 2 retaining screws 1st
x1+2screws
12. HDD
x1
Gently remove by holding the handle, sliding forward, and lifting out.
13. Screws in Battery Bay
x3
14. Screws: Fan door.
x2
15. Screw in fan compartment corner.
x1
16. Screws under DVD drive
x5
17. DVD drive
x1
18. Rubber rectangular hole covers.
x2
At front under DVD drive bay. Self adhesive.
19. Screws Concealed by DVD.
x2
Access thru holes exposed by removing rubber rectangles above.
20. Screw in corner.
x1
Check all underside screws removed. Should be one remaining in one corner by
battery compartment.
Top Access inside – The following parts are accessed from the topside of the case (under
keyboard)
21. Mouse-pad cable
x1
Unlock mouse-pad socket (on motherboard) first by pulling brown wings firmly
toward edge of board, then the thin flat plastic cable should virtually fall out. The
reverse procedure should push the wings back in firmly after re-inserting the flat
cable.
22. Plugs Microphone and Speaker.
x2
Separate Top/Bottom case apart
23. top case. Finger nail all round to prize apart plastic clips all round.
x1.
Motherboard removal with cladding attached
24. Screw by mouse-pad socket.
x1
This helps hold the motherboard to the base of the laptop.
Tip: Blu-Tack each removed screw by the hole it came from.
25. HDD Housing.
x1 +2Screws
This must be removed because it obstructs motherboard removal.
Cladding removal from motherboard
26. Buttons/LEDS board
x1
Lift the right-hand end of the buttons/LEDs-board to unplug it from the motherboard.
SPECIAL TREATMENT: It is stuck down onto the motherboards cladding with
double-sided foam tape at the left end, and plugged into the motherboard at the
right end. There is no need to un-stick it from the foam tape. You can remove and
reinsert the plug simply by lifting and pressing the right end. However when
reassembling align carefully as firm pressure must be applied to ensure it is
properly plugged in. If you fail to the laptop will not even switch on.
27. Rear hexagonal pillars
x6
These must be removed because they hold together the top and bottom
metal cladding at the back of the motherboard.
28. USB Screw (back of laptop, between the USB sockets)
x1
This must be removed because it holds together the top and bottom metal cladding
around the motherboard.
29. Insulation around modem/Ethernet socket (Black)
x1
Un-stick because it wraps round top and bottom metal cladding holding them
together.
30. Thick top cladding
x1
Unhook from rear connectors and lift off.
NOTICE; this thick top cladding forms the visible outer metal surface at the back of
the laptop - the thin inner cladding is behind it. If you forget which way round it goes
the thick/top/outer cladding can be identified by the circular scrapes around the
hexagonal pillar holes where they have been tightened against the cladding.
31. Thin bottom cladding
x1
Unhook from rear connectors and lift off.
Capacitor replacement.
1) Locate the vulnerable capacitors.
There are eight such capacitors. One set of 4, and 2 pairs. as shown below. Click image
to zoom.
http://www.seabrooks.plus.com/laptop2_files/motherboard bottom3.JPG
2) Identify which of the 8 big capacitors have likely failed.
Failed capacitors are often identifiable because the ends are often bulging or show any
evidence of leaking material because they bulged and then burst. Material leaked from
these capacitors is probably highly toxic to humans, but oddly it does not seem to
damage the laptop. However if the laptop is soiled it must be gently cleaned. Blu-Tack is
good at picking up loose dried material and dust.
3) Decide if repairable.
If any or all of the 'pairs' of capacitors have failed the repair is possible. Also if ONE of the
set of 4 has failed the repair is possible but harder. If more that one of the set of 4 has
failed repair is very difficult/impossible with bigger capacitors, and not much easier if you
can obtain capacitors the right shape, unless you are highly expert at de-soldering thick
thru hole plated circuit boards.
4) Avoid destroying your motherboard by not de-soldering the old capacitors.
DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT ATTEMPTING TO DE-SOLDER THE OLD FAILED
CAPACITORS IT IS ALMOST CERTAIN TO DESTROY YOUR LAPTOP
MOTHERBOARD. Instead I recommend cutting off the old capacitors leaving the old
leads sticking out from the board. The new capacitor leads should be shortened and
soldered to these cut leads. For a robust connection you may prefer to hook the lead
ends together before soldering, however bear in mind these capacitors are bigger and
some need flexibility to be twisted a way from other parts. See step 5 below.
5) Making bigger capacitors fit in the space required.
DVD drive capacitors:
The capacitor pair near the DVD drive socket is problematic because the DVD case
extends a bracket over the motherboard where the bigger capacitors are. To save time
you must solve this before putting it all together. You can avoid this problem as follows;a) Fit and push the capacitors as far back from the edge as possible (w/o big force).
b) Position the replacement capacitor(s) diagonally a little if need be.
c) Only replace one capacitor is only one is vented/bulging.
d) If possible, fit capacitors of the same size as the failed ones.
Extra precautions
e) With heavy cutters - chop off the corner of the bracket that encroaches. Not easy!!
f) Stick a small square of insulating tape over the ends of the new capacitors
g) Stick insulating tape over the corner of the DVD drive bracket.
h) Put some blue tack on the bracket too so that if it gets close to the capacitor
it will leave an impression you can see clearly when you come to fit the dvd drive.
Fan bay capacitors;
If one of these should be replaced (because it is vented/bulging) it is hard to remove
it because
a) Even for experts - it is hard to de-solder without terminally destroying the
motherboard
b) You cannot easily access the leads to simply cut them. My solution to this is to
patiently dismantle the capacitor itself with small wire cutters and solder insulated
extension leads between the stumps and the new capacitor laying elsewhere in
the fan bay. Obviously these leads should be sort as possible and be made of
thick wire capable of carrying high surge currents. If you do this keep the board
clean of conductive debris as you go and wash your hands afterwards to avoid
intoxicating yourself.
6) It saves time if the disassembled laptop is hooked together temporarily to test it. Do not
connect the HDD or DVD the first attempt. Just connect the keyboard, display, the powerbutton board, and the external power and see if the laptop powers up when you hit the
power button.
Battery Check and Replacement.
The yellow object in the picture below is the 3 Volt CR2032 clock battery cell. It may be a
different colour on your computer. The battery and wires with plug are a single removable
assembly on the original computer. The battery cell will probably fail soon after the capacitors
fail. So while the motherboard is accessible I recommend checking the terminal voltage of the
cell at the points indicated by the white arrows. It should be 3V. Take care not to shortcircuit the battery. My battery started loosing the date at 2.1 Volts. A New Cell is 3Volts. You
can either buy cells with solder tags on them that you can solder to, or you can buy plastic
holders for plain untagged cells. Never solder directly to the battery surfaces. Try RS,
Farnell or Maplin. I used the slimmest holder I could find and attached flying leads twice as
long as the old ones so the battery on the lead could be folded round to the other side of the
board for future access thru the RAM module hatch. It was further insulated with clear
magic tape, and later wedged gently in place at the edge of the hatch so the RAM could still
be accessed. One final note, I did not have a new plug. My new leads were soldered direct
to the back of the motherboard socket leads. The old battery was left in until the new one
was in place. Only then, quickly remove the old battery by pulling out the plug.
Main lithium battery bay.
http://www.seabrooks.plus.com/laptop2_files/motherboard top2.JPG
Check the 3 Volt button cell voltage at these points [indicated by white arrows]. Notice that the battery cell, lead and
plug are a single assembly. You can solder your own improvised holder and wire assembly to the points shown [by
the white arrows], and fold it around the board [as shown by the green line] to access the battery from the RAM hatch
in future.
Reassembly
This is the reverse of the dismantling procedure.
Taking great care to avoid short circuiting any circuitry with metal parts or tools - it saves time
if at regular intervals the partially assembled laptop is hooked together temporarily to test it.
The minimum requirement is to connect keyboard, display, power. Do not connect the HDD or
DVD the first attempt. Just connect the keyboard, display, power-button board, and the
external power and see if the laptop powers up when you hit the power button.
Restarting and Apparent loss of password
After reassembly a hibernated computer may SEEM to forget the password because it
appears the shift key is held down when it is not. Fortunately all you need do is tap the shift
key once and retry entering the password. What happens is the computer hibernation
remembers the shift-key held down sometimes and so it appears the shift-key is still down
while entering the password.
Testing.
Check first with no hard disk or DVD. If the display comes on and complains that there is no
boot device that is good. Power off. Fit the HD. Power up. My laptops probably failed a bit
early because they run at 100% CPU utilization 24/7. They would have failed anyway
because I understand the capacitors are likely to be faulty www.badcaps.net. You can stress
test your laptop too by downloading from www.wcgrid.org their robust philanthropic software
that looks for medical cures. At June 2007 it was running on 300,000 PC’s worldwide, and in
June 2008 it was running on 400,000 PC’s. At least that many devices are registered. You do
not have to run it at 100% you can select any % from 0 to 100 in steps of 10. I would
recommend increasing your RAM to 512M or 1G, next time you are in the computer store, but
it is not essential.
* About Bulging or Vented Capacitors
Failed capacitors often bulge at one or both ends, or you may see residue of leaked
electrolyte. Sometimes they fail with neither indication. See www.badcaps.net for more
pictures and expert documentation.
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